About this episode

Wait until you hear this Leader Chat. This conversation is as relevant as it gets for today’s educational leaders. This is the most polarizing time in our era and high conflict is seriously dominating our day-to-day narrative. Jeff is constantly looking for guests who can help with challenges the leaders we support are facing, and this podcast hits the nail on the head. Amanda Ripley’s Book, High Conflict: Why We Get Trapped and How We Get Out is exactly what we need to read, or in this case hear about.

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Amanda Ripley is a New York Times bestselling author, an investigative journalist and host of the Slate podcast How To! She’s spent her career trying to make sense of complicated human mysteries, from how people get out of dysfunctional conflicts to  how countries educate virtually all their kids to think for themselves. Amanda’s most recent book is High Conflict: Why We Get Trapped and How We Get Out, published by Simon & Schuster in 2021.  Her previous books include The Unthinkable: Who Survives When Disaster Strikes—and Why, which was published in 15 countries and turned into a PBS documentary, and The Smartest Kids in the World—and How They Got That Way, New York Times bestseller which was also turned into a documentary film.

About Jeff Rose, Vice President of Leadership Development at Cognia

Forward-thinking executive leader with over 20 years of experience within education (3X Superintendent, Curriculum Director, Principal, & Classroom Teacher), primed to support leaders in their pursuit of solving the most complicated educational problems of practice.